Subject	sure, no problem.
Posted by	T(Seattle) on December 07, 2004 at 1:30 AM
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In Reply To	actually more of my purpose in posting... posted by Zluster on December 07, 2004 at 12:56 AM
Message	See U.S. District Court Southern District of New York opinion John Doe/ACLU v. Ashcroft et. al., most importantly views expressed by Judge Marrero. [ http://www.nysd.uscourts.gov/rulings/04CV2614_Opinion_092904.pdf ] A viewpoint on the case: [ http://practice.findlaw.com/cyberlaw-1104.html ] Also, another article published by Ramasastry: Knowledge, Technology, & Policy. Fall2003, Vol. 16 Issue 3, p7. These deal specifically with the USA PATRIOT Act of 2001, but you can relate them to elements of Big Brother as the arguments deal with unconstitutional surveillance, search and seizure, etc. I recently wrote a paper on the matter and I have to defend it tomorrow. If you would like anything further, feel free to email me. ------------ There are 10 types of people in this world: Those who understand binary and those who don't.
Follow Ups	Big brother? - Zluster 00:25:39 12/07/04 Autoweek had a few articles recently on all that. (n/m) - YugoBernie (NoVA) 00:29:19 12/07/04 Yep. And I've posted 2 or 3 here as well (n/m) - SeedyROM 01:08:07 12/07/04 Must have missed those, even though I have no life.... - Zluster 01:23:54 12/07/04 Yeah, I regurgitate stuff I see on privacy sites and such - SeedyROM 01:56:10 12/07/04 2 + 2 = 5 - T(Seattle) 00:51:21 12/07/04 actually more of my purpose in posting... - Zluster 00:56:45 12/07/04 sure, no problem. - T(Seattle) 01:30:33 12/07/04 Thanks for the links man.... (n/m) - Zluster 01:39:19 12/07/04 radiohead allusion.. or am i missing something? (n/m) - mousersix (San Antonio) 02:21:35 12/07/04 the Radiohead song comes from a book - T(Seattle) 14:03:13 12/07/04 Congressman Janklow got what he deserved. He was - robo (sebring1970) 01:00:41 12/07/04 he got off easy... should of hung his sorry ass. (n/m) - Tu 01:08:29 12/07/04 yeah, I meant he was far from innocent - - robo (sebring1970) 01:22:37 12/07/04 ya, def seems that it was that way... - Zluster 01:25:14 12/07/04 very easy - Red October 01:06:52 12/07/04 Universal Safety Mandate? - Zluster 01:22:30 12/07/04 seatbelts and airbags cant be tapped for information (n/m) - naZeer (Houston) 07:59:12 12/07/04 (Like onstar and cars with blackboxes) (n/m) - ZFreak (Omaha) 08:27:11 12/07/04 even tho its in britian....... - Initial Z 01:10:40 12/07/04 the way it works... - Zluster 01:13:33 12/07/04 ok (n/m) - Initial Z 01:22:33 12/07/04 Here are a few more cases I came up with... - Zluster 01:51:14 12/07/04 I find it funny how almost all speeding could be solved - Ebola 03:35:00 12/07/04 You said it. The technology already exists to eliminate - robo (sebring1970) 05:31:54 12/07/04 Just like the US vs Autobahn issue.... I watched the history - PiotrC70 09:40:42 12/07/04 Re: how would you govern something with a carburetor? (n/m) - Logik (Pittsburgh) 08:26:21 12/07/04 GPS speed tracker to cut off ignition or the fuel pump - boileralum 08:56:34 12/07/04 That would last until the first lawsuit >> - Greg (Dallas) 09:07:41 12/07/04 Could have called a helicoptor or an ambulance - Ebola 19:16:55 12/07/04 You could also solve it by raising the limit to something - Technomancer 09:40:09 12/07/04 or be logical like they are in the UK (n/m) - genic 09:43:31 12/07/04 what, 4 speeding tickets and you get a Driving Ban? - Technomancer 10:20:31 12/07/04 COPS like nothing more than for you to break the law... - thumper300zx 09:49:03 12/07/04 That's not entirely true. It's not the cops' fault. - Marshall 12:12:44 12/07/04 Second. No cop I know like traffic stops. (n/m) - JRH(KY) 12:18:03 12/07/04 I would still lean toward those officers being the exception - thumper300zx 12:18:36 12/07/04 Would never happen. It would cut off a revenue stream. - Marshall 12:30:50 12/07/04 Just to add to what i was trying to say - Ebola 18:52:30 12/07/04 what about whats going on in Cali and Texas? - spyhunter(nj) 08:20:26 12/07/04 when is it said to begin in texas; the part on texas... - reefatx 11:20:39 12/07/04 unknown, I'm a big alex jone's fan... - spyhunter(nj) 11:35:33 12/07/04 And what if you weren't speeding? - olyar15 11:15:06 12/07/04 ya now it would... - Zluster 11:31:24 12/07/04 Well, if you were speeding, then you really can't complain - olyar15 12:16:54 12/07/04
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